tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-393540894130950585.post771828324223904424..comments2024-03-22T00:23:29.865-07:00Comments on Never In Doubt: “Desktop” could be Win 8’s killer feature with consumersWard Bellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10977457957771020146noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-393540894130950585.post-65251247670553830452011-09-23T11:45:12.054-07:002011-09-23T11:45:12.054-07:00If you're saying main differentiator of Win 8 ...If you're saying main differentiator of Win 8 is chance to target enterprise, that is mighty scary. Consumers won't select a tablet if only added value is to be able to do work on it. They will just carry two devices.<br /><br />Instead, the real MS vision is being first to show same UI on PC's and handhelds in Win 8. Because both consumers and business care about that. Imagine buying an app that targets both PC and handheld and using it on both seemlessly. <br /><br />(Whether Metro works as well with keyboard+mouse remains to be seen.)David Chinghttp://dcsoft.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-393540894130950585.post-58527472702437945632011-09-23T10:24:04.890-07:002011-09-23T10:24:04.890-07:00I would have called it XPhone, but who listens to ...I would have called it XPhone, but who listens to me... :->Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-393540894130950585.post-16102293660847863372011-09-23T09:01:31.550-07:002011-09-23T09:01:31.550-07:00Great post. I don't agree that iPads are going...Great post. I don't agree that iPads are going to display PCs. Perhaps at home with casual users, but certainly not in the enterprise. In some cases in the enterprise it might make sense (for example I think iPads totally kick it in the consumer service industry). For executives who are on the go, the iPad nails it again providing them just the right amount of flexibility to read emails, surf, and do basic document editing (with some addon software). However for most corporations iPads just don't work. Even with a keyboard attached, they're not a PC and never can be for heavy users of spreadsheets or LOB apps (it is dependent on the LOB apps and some might be suited for the iPad).<br /><br />I wrote a blog post here http://bit.ly/olpKfM that is an alternate take on things, thinking Microsoft should offer up two OS flavours and not try to merge Metro and Classic together. It's an opposite conclusion to your points but I think both are valid.<br /><br />Cheers!Bil Simserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07590604974965398443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-393540894130950585.post-64442523618057749822011-09-23T08:28:31.545-07:002011-09-23T08:28:31.545-07:00Thank you for saying what I think many of us are t...Thank you for saying what I think many of us are thinking. I went to a Windows Phone Camp at the MS office here in Atlanta yesterday. Everything I saw that was supposedly "new to you" I was thinking "Android already does that". Just another example of chasing coat tails doesn't work, regardless of how you sugarcoat it.Ralph Florahttp://ralphflora.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-393540894130950585.post-87157272237213801072011-09-23T08:02:22.163-07:002011-09-23T08:02:22.163-07:00Absolutely agree with the need to focus on where t...Absolutely agree with the need to focus on where their strength has always been, with the enterprise, while making up ground on the consumer side.<br /><br />I will disagree a little bit, though, with your vision for business apps in the Metro world. The problem with the UX in business apps has never been that the technology wasn't there to create well designed, good looking, polished business apps. It's that businesses don't care. Really, they don't. The users who have to use those business apps care, but the managers who make the decisions about where resources are going to be spent don't. What are the users going to do, use a different app? They don't have a choice. Are they going to change jobs because the software the business makes them use is buggy? Unlikely. None of this will change in the Metro world. Show me any business app that you can create in Metro, and I will create it without Metro. So why isn't that being done now? Because businesses don't care.<br /><br />I am a developer at one of those businesses, and I see this firsthand all the time. It's sad, but unfortunately, there is an argument to be made that it's good business.David Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10947699344359858981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-393540894130950585.post-9030654000013911032011-09-23T05:48:42.459-07:002011-09-23T05:48:42.459-07:00Wow great article. I totally agree. I believe that...Wow great article. I totally agree. I believe that if the Windows phone allowed Enterprises to side load their own apps the phone would be bigger. However Microsoft wanted to make money on the app store. Well they got 30% of 1% of the market. It should have been 30% of at least 10% of the market.Michael Washingtonhttp://lightswitchhelpwebsite.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-393540894130950585.post-85802545936837444232011-09-23T03:26:11.954-07:002011-09-23T03:26:11.954-07:00Excellent article!
Just another thought: It also d...Excellent article!<br />Just another thought: It also depends on how cloud computing develops. I personally believe it is strongly hyped at the moment. And I also don't see a huge majority of enterprise applications to immediately jump into the cloud. But the ominous cloud does bring operating system independence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-393540894130950585.post-63205946166076056472011-09-23T02:38:09.204-07:002011-09-23T02:38:09.204-07:00Another excellent post Ward. Thanks.
And yeah, I ...Another excellent post Ward. Thanks.<br /><br />And yeah, I really loved Jensen's talk but like you I was thinking "Dude, those pictures mean nothing to me. Give me back the God-damned RSS feed titles".Ian Smithhttp://fastandfluid.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-393540894130950585.post-49953308957768500102011-09-22T22:56:34.869-07:002011-09-22T22:56:34.869-07:00Really great post!
The only thing I would add is ...Really great post!<br /><br />The only thing I would add is the sheer stupidity of naming the phone Windows Phone!<br /><br />Imagine if they named XBox, WindowsBox... sales would have NEVER taken off.<br /><br />Consumers buy name and packaging as much as functionality!<br /><br />A sexy/hip name for the phone, and the chances of success would have skyrocketed.<br /><br />It's not logical, but it's often true. Let's hope Nokia comes up with a name for their phones that has more imagination.Fallon Masseynoreply@blogger.com